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June 23, 2007

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Liz

Diosa- This is a pretty ballsy subject, good for you! I am also an atheist but often find myself trying to avoid the subject. I have a hard time with the parenting minus religion aspects as well. I often find people who think that because I have no intention of raising my boys in a church that I may as well set them on fire, it would be just as bad. (Maybe a bit extreme but you get the point)

The older I get, the more I realize I shouldn't be talking religion (or politics for that matter) with anyone who isn't very close friends or family.

I've also realized that when it comes to religion, I typically get the same response:

"Oh, you'll come around, wait until the boys are older."

Which I suppose means that they think the guilt will get to me and I'll feel too awful for not giving the boys something to have faith in and run to the nearest church, family in tow.

Do you get that a lot? The "Oh, you'll come around" comment?

Diosa

Liz, I realize I may alienate some people with this post. But I'm also curious to hear the responses. I tend to be very upfront and I have a great deal to say on the topic.

I don't really get the "You'll come around" comment. I've found rather surprisingly that many of my friends and family have developed religious opinions that are not so different from mine. Most would consider themselves agnostic, some I feel go to church just because it's expected by their families and some have told me in recent years that they think they may be atheists too. And then I also have friends who are very passionate about their religions. And I do my best to be open-minded where they are concerned because they are wonderful and intelligent people and I don't think religion should matter in a friendship.

My mother-in-law is another issue. She will bring my kids to church when the opportunity arises. I really don't have a problem with that though. I want my kids to learn as much as they can about all religions and schools of thought and make the decision that's right for them.

Mostly though, I want people to realize that being an Atheist does not mean you are an immoral degenerate. It truly frustrates me that so many people put more weight on whether or not you go to church and believe in God than if you are a contributing member of society.

Bookgirl

As much as you feel judged for being an atheist by the God-fearing masses, I feel equally judged for being Catholic by my smart friends. Yes, I believe in God. I pray. I practice a largely archaic, somewhat sexist religion that I find utterly comforting. But that's a choice. I don't believe what I do because someone told me to. I believe in it because I truly, bone-deep believe in it. I don't leave my brain at the door of the church. I question, I doubt, I argue. But ultimately I believe.

Diosa

Bookgirl, I support your choice. You are one of the smartest people I know and we share so many of the same opinions. Sometimes I wish I could have your faith, but I know it wouldn't make life any easier. I hope you can instill some tolerance and help make a positive change in the church. I really do.

And it's so nice that you don't look at me like the devil incarnate.

Liz

One of the things I enjoy the most is listening and taking into consideration someone elses views on life, whatever the subject may be. For some reason, religion is one of the most interesting. Probably because most people truly believe wholeheartedly on the subject, one way or the other.

Bookgirl - I just love that comment. "I question, I doubt, I argue. But ultimately I believe." - it makes me feel interested in understanding your beliefs because you actually believe them, which is something in religion today that I do think is somewhat scarce.

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